The Water Fuel Cell

[kinesisfilms]

a choke has its own resonance, and at its resonance it's capacitance, inductance, and resistance are highest.
http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/basics/chokes.htm

using a choke as a charging inductor in a resonant circuit.....a resonant choke in a resonant circuit.


resonant charging choke as stated in the patent.


definition from the book stated above.

[kinesisfilms]

13 volts is the minimum required to split water....quoted from stephen and stanley.

this is why in the above patent stan used 26 volts as his input which pulsed at a 50 percent duty cycle is equal to 13 votls.....a frequency of 10khz at the source and 20khz at the capacitor.....

i need a cheap spectrum analyzer.....then no more mathematics.....i would be able to visually see resonance curves.


small wires in a choke larger capacitance higher resistance duh.

[kinesisfilms]

just to let you know everything stanley has said is entirely CORRECT......in the one video where peter lindemann says its not a resonant circuit becuase of the diode......HE IS WRONG......HE IS RIGHT BY MEANING TO SAY IT'S NOT A NATURALLY RESONATING CIRCUIT WHERE THE CAPACITOR DISCHARGES AS THE INDUCTOR CHARGES NATURALLY.......BUT THE GATING!!!!!!!

THE GATING MANUALLY DISCHARGES THE CAPACITOR ONCE THE CAPACITOR REACHES IT CHARGED CAPACITY......THIS IS THE RESONANCE......THAT IS WHY THE LAST PEAK SAYS RESONANCE.......IT IS NOT NATURAL RESONANCE BUT GATED RESOANANCE AND EITHER WAY THE SAME LAWS OF RESONANCE APPLY TO IT...........what needs to be taken into consideration is the resonant point of the charging choke.....hence resonant charging choke term.......this choke at a certain point has it's distributed capacitance inductance and resitance form a parallel circuit all inside the choke......this is the main frequency.....then it is just worked around the wfc and gated and we have our working system.....

STANLEY MEYERS SYSTEM IS A RESONANTING CIRCUIT BECUASE OF THE GATING (let's call it manual or forced resonance instead of the normal natural resonance).....without the gating it is not a resonant circuit.


there are no tricks and no lies....he is an honest man.

[JAFO]

I totally agree. After spending thousands of dollars on this adventure, and a pile of worthless and
useless junk from people claiming to know wtf this actually is and what it does, it finally hit me a
couple of nights back.

IT IS A DC RESONANT CHARGING CIRCUIT! PEORID.

Set your system up like systems used in TESLA coil designs leaving out some stuff and WOW, it
WORKS. It works so well that I had to shut it down after it went into runaway. It melted every
wire I had connected! Easy fix by isolating the pulse circuit and the resonance circuit, but it
finally worked.

JAFO

[longcat]

Jafo, What do you mean with "it worked"?
Do you mean you created hho or the waveform was developed like it should with high voltage?

[kinesisfilms]

OK FIRST OFF
there are different forms of resonance......let's say natural and artificial......and AC and DC........

let's explain that since there is a diode in this circuit then yuo can never have NATURAL RESONANCE.....so it has to be artificial and manually forced to happen which is achieved with gating.....

so let's ask ourselves what happens in natural resonance when the inductor is full.....well at resoanant frequency when hte inductor is full it discharges into the capcitor until the capacitor is full which then the capacitor discharges into the inductor back and forth over and over like a pendulum.

So to achieve this with gating we must gate the pulsed frequency right when the capacitor achieves it's full charge....so then the inductor can begin to step charge the process all over again......and right when our 50% duty cycle pulse passes the diode it becomes half wave rectified never passing the 0 volt level......AKA DC........so we have DC RESONANCE.



NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SECOND HALF OUR RESONANT FREQUENCY WE MUST DETERMINE THE FIRST HALF.

THE KEY IMPORTANT FACTOR HERE IS NOT THE GATING BETWEEN THE CAPACITOR AND THE INDUCTOR SINCE ANYONE WITH AN OSCOPE CAN EASILY ACHIEVE THIS VISUALLY.

THE KEY HERE IS THE OPTIMUM FREQUENCY OF YOUR BIFILAR CHOKE.

this is the true resonant frequency......the frequency your bifilar choke resonates at.......

first you need to take your bifilar choke connected as aaron m connects it where it says 192%


THIS MAKES IT'S DISTRIBUTED CAPACITANCE THE MAXIMUM IT CAN BE AS IN TESLAS PATENT.

this is a key factor here......sending in a frequency under resonance and your bifilar choke will not have a capacitance and no second pulse on the off pulse........using a frequency above resonance.....capacitance will overtake induction defeating the gating resonance......so how do you find the optimum frequency of your bifilar choke???

i have no idea how to do it mathematically but....if you have a spectrum analyzer....hook your probe to only one side of the bifilar......the one after the diode in the schematic.....do a frequency sweep of 50% duty cycle (can't be done with a lawton circuit)....until you haveyour peak point.......this is the frequency you will be pumping into your vic.....you then take that frequency apply it to your system and then gate the frequency getting your VIC resonant frequency.

as for a transformer.....you can use a simple audio line matching transformer used in reversed.....if you apply 12 volts at a 50% duty cycle it will be 6 volts ac......this goes into the transformer and is stepped up to around 30-40 volts......

in the new zealand video stan says "see the beautiful thing of it is is since your using audio frequencies you can use an audio transformer).......

what does all the work in this system is the stepup transformer and the bifilar charging choke........

if you break each part down, and learn each part, you can understand the whole.

i am getting a spectrum analyzer......there will be photos and videos when i have the patent fully replicated.

ALL THE FOCUS COMES ON THE CHOKES OPTIMUM FREQUENCY......THIS IS THE KEY FACTOR......

i can't stress enough the importance of find the optimum frequency to make your choke a resonant charging choke.......THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.....probablly the most overlooked part since the average person has no way of figuring this out.

[electronsrule]

I recently became interested in this water breaking theory thing. I have reviewed the circuit and to my knowledge the circuit (VIC) with capacitor between two coils will always resonate. Its the same has having two springs with a weight in the middle (laws of physics). Also the reason there is a variable inductor is because the center electrode/plate is a different dimension then outer( (unlike normal capacitors plates same size with dielectric in center).
All this circuit does is help maintain enough energy within the two coils thru capacitor until it gets bumped again, the reason for gating is to achieve only and just only enough energy in capacitor/cell thus maintain a constant voltage just enough for electron release but not enough energy for current to flow from one plate to the other, the little pulses are the amount of energy per burst and the gating is the time per burst that is allowed which is also pulsed in. The reason for two sets of pulses is to allow a greater sensitivity bandwidth for the burst adjustment, one could add third for even greater sensitivity, however not needed. Stan knew that it only takes 13EV for water disassociation. Stan saw this and stunned the world with a new circuit that i call a high voltage, precision capacitor plate charging circuit. Stan basically charges a capacitor plate with electron precision for enough voltage to pull electrons without the current breaking the barrier of water, all this with the aid of two resonating coils helping with efficiency. Remember charging a piece of metal with applied voltage just enough for the metal charge but not to saturate it with current REQUIRES A GREAT DEAL OF SPEED AND PRECISION, Stans circuit takes care of that.
Back to coils and capacitor, imagine a slinky, if a weight is put in the center, with proper motion of hands an oscillation is achieved and the slinky goes on for a while, another example is two springs, one attached to ceiling and the other to the floor, place weight 1 million pounds at each end resting in the middle. The initial work will take effort however when one reaches the point of oscillation/resonance the 1 million pounds will seem effortless. Diode in circuit is to maintain a polarity of cell. The diode also seems to limit how much voltage the circuit can tolerate (ever and i mean ever) this is due to the fact that the avalanche thresholds of diode cannot be broken. Also if the cell used 10s of thousands of volts like people think it would arc in the tube specially in water!
Hope this aids anyone!
I will be doing research into this and will update this forum with my findings.