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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Meyers Hi V Pulse Reply with quote

Glenn
From Australia - Sydney.
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Contact through this forum.
Description of project.
Pulsing 13.8 V through the Meyer Step up Transformer to break
down water.

I would hope to make Reasonably good quantity of HydOxy gas with
quite low current.
My aim would be to just make 0.5 L/min Gas with 4 A.
I will Use the Dave Lawton circuit for Gated Pulse output.
I intend to Make my own Transformer core and wind my own wire
to enable an Extremely fast switching through the step up Transformer.
Will start off with very small concentric tubes and 12 Volt car battery.

(Apparatus Drawings
Measurements and clearances
Electrical schematics
Photos).



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went looking at a local river that was reported to have Sand.
Looking for the Black Sand......typical sign of the Alluvial magnetite
that I'm after.

No Luck, was only nice white sand.
According to my research Australia is one of best places to find
this magnetite, but from the info it said every state except mine
had good supply.
I need to find a river that has passed through iron oxide bearing rocks.
Perhaps I should speak to a Geologist.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still formulating my " Plan Of Attack " on this project.
The Pulsing Circuit to give a 13.8 V DC Pulsed and Gated
( eg. nnn__nnn__nnn__nnn this sort of effect )
signal is the one Dave Lawton designed and P Kelly documented.

This is fed into the primary winding TX1. This Induces Voltage into the
Core of the Transformer.
TX1 and TX2 may be Bifolar wound , I feel. But I may try as individual.

Windings TX4 and TX5 may be bifolar wound.
B- is the connection to the Outer Tube of Water Cell.
B+ is the connection to the Inner Tube of Water Cell.

look out for the High Quality drawing " not "



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As part of the ongoing experimenting, I propose to
wind a Bedini style extra winding twisted in and bifolar wound
with TX4 and TX5. The extra winding would connect to a spark
gap within the Cell itself.
***********Very Dangerous if spark is not shielded, so will have to make sure its contained.********
I will need to research this more as the type of reaction I expect
at the spark gap follows some characteristics which are unfamiliar to
me.

The aim of the spark gap is to Pump the Cell Water with Energy.!



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Core of the Transformer: I am trying to get Magnetite
to make this core. Its properties make it an extremely fast
Magnetizer / De-Magnetizer.
The advantage of Fast Magnetic flux change
is to Create far greater voltage spikes.
I also see posibilities for experimenting in the Zero Point Energy
realm with this style of set up.

My lack of expertise in this area will hamper my progress, but like anything
you need to learn some time.!

In my simplistic Electrical understanding, the greatest flux transfer will
be achieved by making the Transformer Core in a Torroidal style.
So that is why I depicted it as a Donut shape in my sketch.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The M. Soft word doc drawing was pretty poor, so am trying Lester's
idea. testing here.:



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm, are you sure that TX4 and TX5 are supposed to be wound on the actual transformer toroid? It seems to me that they would have a similar effect to putting more turns on TX2; Furthermore, I believe it stated in one of the patents that "inductors" TX4 and TX5 are wound with 100 turns one inch in diameter. I think the patents definately could have been written in more detail than they were.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not only are TX4 and TX5 wound on the same core, they are wound in bi-filar fashion. They are physically and electrically parallel from their connection to the electrodes down to their connection to TX2 and associated diode. Thus TX2 is the only winding that generates any voltage to affect a differential across the electrodes.

It makes little difference whether it was TX4 or TX5, but, I believe it was TX5 that was connected directly to TX2. That same TX2 / TX5 junction is connected to ground as well. The effect is that the potential of the water as a whole (in relation to ground) is electrically driven by TX4 and TX5 just as an antenna is driven by a grounded transmitter. So, to sum up, there is an AC potential between the water and ground because of TX4 and TX5, while there is also a pulsating DC potential applied to the electrodes and through the water because of TX2 and the diode. A synergistic effect I suppose.

The way Stanley actually wound the transformer was to wind TX4 and TX5 on the core 1st, then TX1, then TX2, then TX3. The end of TX4 and TX5 that was closest to the core was the end that was connected to the electrodes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not only are TX4 and TX5 wound on the same core, they are wound in bi-filar fashion. They are physically and electrically parallel from their connection to the electrodes down to their connection to TX2 and associated diode. Thus TX2 is the only winding that generates any voltage to affect a differential across the electrodes.

It makes little difference whether it was TX4 or TX5, but, I believe it was TX5 that was connected directly to TX2. That same TX2 / TX5 junction is connected to ground as well. The effect is that the potential of the water as a whole (in relation to ground) is electrically driven by TX4 and TX5 just as an antenna is driven by a grounded transmitter. So, to sum up, there is an AC potential between the water and ground because of TX4 and TX5, while there is also a pulsating DC potential applied to the electrodes and through the water because of TX2 and the diode. A synergistic effect I suppose.

The way Stanley actually wound the transformer was to wind TX4 and TX5 on the core 1st, then TX1, then TX2, then TX3. The end of TX4 and TX5 that was closest to the core was the end that was connected to the electrodes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't it lool like bob boyce toroidal transformer ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

renaud67 wrote:
Doesn't it lool like bob boyce toroidal transformer ?


I have often wondered about what similarities the two might possess.

What similarities do you notice about these two designs?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Multiple wiring which could allow to have on the bob boyce toroid each input wiring has its frequency ... perhaps it is possible with the drawing above Question
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having 3 primary windings surely wouldn't be a problem for this transformer.

The differences I see between the methods Bob and Stan use are. (1) Stan used a unipolar method of applying AC to create a standing wave in the cell. Bob uses a bipolar method. (2) Stan used inductance to limit current and voltage in the application of DC across the electrodes until the resonant reaction reduced the conductivity of the water. (3) Stan didn't use electrolytes in his attempts to increase output. (4) Stan used one frequency, although that frequency shifted with the amount of water in his cell.

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