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revhalzoo



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Good day for an experiment... Reply with quote

Hello all, im new but excited to learn about this cell. The only thing we could ever burn that would not make CO2 at any level...hydrogen! forget alcohol, or oil based fuels (this includes biodiesel, sorry guys it still produces CO2).

Now i have just one little trick that might change the balance... Alternating Current... anyone ever tried it on their cells yet? the reason im thinking in AC is because it already produces a pulsed current, its really easy to just cut off the bottom or top half of the waveform, plus alternators produce it (just gotta bypass a few transistors...). seems like a place to start for me. Tesla may just save the watercar, who knows...

Well ill be checking every so often to see whats up, and i may just make one of these little gizmos myself.

Mike
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duranza



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the board. There have been a couple of people that claimed such a feat with an inverter and a rigged up ignition coil to split water. If you want to use Straight AC with the water fuel cell it wouldn't be too effective to find resonance in the system with a fixed frequency. Just my thought, but you should just try it. Just be safe...
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stevie1001



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcom revhalzoo to this forum.

Any idea's are very welcome! Try things out and write them down on this forum. If we can assist you, please let us know.

AC current is tried by me, for example, but not in dept.
I agree on the 50/60Hz pulses from ac. What most people uses here is the schematic of Dave Lawton connected to a trafo, which produces ac voltage. We partially rectify that with one diode so you get a pulse DC signal. (gated signal) Some uses a full rectifier bridge.

Stanley stated that you get the best results if you can hold the voltage on the WFC. With AC you change polarity constantly........
But as I said earlier....the subject is still in young and developing.
If you try with AC and you get bubbles, please please please write it here and start your own project header.

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revhalzoo



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, my thoughts are that you would have only half the wave form, for example take an AC producing alternator and throw a diode in there thus you have only pos or neg waveform. After that is accomplished, you would use a second alt. to produce another wave form where it would have a diode the opposite way as the first alt/diode then you would get the other half of the waveform. Then time the half waveforms to match each other in pos and neg and you have your pulse both pos and neg at the same time on your plates.

This may be able to be done with one alt, two diodes and a capacitor. Its been so long since i took high school electronics though... Seems like trying to get all the explosives to go off for a fission bomb doesnt it?
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revhalzoo



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres a little sketch i drew up to help

dunno, prolly wont work just bcause there is no ground/pos for the waveforms to go, but mabie yall could help out. Of coarse then again we dont want electricity to jump the gap between plates, we just want a neg on one and pos on the other at the same time ja?



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

I think it is ok to try that. Attached is a doc from Stanley with the same waveform as you try to get with 2 alternators.
You can get to same results also with electronics and one alternator, if you like.
The end result should give you a greater potential difference between your electrodes and thats always good, I think.

Have you planned already some tests?
Keep us updated!

br
Steve



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